History of the Mideast conflict.
by Tom Wilson on Sunday, October 16, 2011 at 5:55pm
It started in 1917 with the Balfour Declaration. Then a few Jews immigrated to Israel (to join the few thousand who have always lived there)...
Then the UN voted to give the Jews a small portion of desert in the area that was called Palestine.
The Hitler killed many millions of Jews and drove the rest out of Europe. The NO nation in the world would accept the Jewish refugees – except the British in the land called Palestine. But then even the British tried to stop the Jews – and put them in British CONCENTRATION camps....And then the UN voted again and again gave a small portion of the land to the Jews; but the Arabs rejected this idea and swore to drive the Jews into the sea (and finish the job that Hitler started).
The the Jews declared a homeland and were willing to make major compromises just to have a land of their own. But the Arabs rejected any compromise of any kind, and swore to kill the Jews...Then x5 Arab nations invaded Palestine – and promptly got their asses kicked! Then there were some truces that lasted various lengths of time – but the Arabs always rejected Peace – attacked Israel – and got their asses kicked! And time after time these war-loving & hate-filled Arabs attacked Israel – and got their asses kicked!....So when will the Arabs give up? Never – because they hate God, and they hate God's people.
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Owen Abrey There are some more important facts. This land belonged to the Ottoman Empire for around 800 years. Following the breakup of the empire, Syria and Jordan staked out the lands they wanted. The land that is now Israel was the land no one wanted. It was a barren waste land. Britain tried and tried to get Jordan or even Egypt to take it. They wouldn't. As the Jews emigrated to Israel, they bought their spit of desert when ever someone actually owned it.
Then came the wars. 1948 on the day the nation was recognised. The attacks were repulsed. The peace treaty both sides signed gave Israel a little more land. The populace was allowed to stay. Which is why there have always been a large Arab population in Israel to this day. The war of 1967 brought about greater areas of lands that were ceded by way of the peace agreement. After the disastrous 1973 war, Egypt lost the Siani Desert; Syria, the Golan heights; Jordan the East bank and control of Jerusalem. These were the terms of peace that stopped a war. A war that was going very badly for Syria, Jordan and Egypt.
There were lands given back to these countries. Egypt got the Sinai for example. But also the West Bank went to Syria, and areas north and east of the Golan Heights, as well as territory ceded back to Jordan. These were Israeli concessions they made of territory they conquered. We don't hear this in this debate, which is why it does not get my respect. There will be no peace ever--because Islam wants no peace with the Children of Israel.
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They were the settlements of 3 nations whose property was conquered, and who were beaten badly. And there was an understanding that for Egypt for example, they were losing ground to the Nile. Syria lost the West Bank, East Bank, Golan, and land 100 miles into Syria beyond that. Jordan lost Jerusalem, and territory beyond the dead sea. Settling the boundaries where they were settled, actually meant that they gained back a lot of territory, and got rid of land that they didn't really want in the first place. The problem is that nations are made of people, who inhabit the ground captured in war. In many wars, every inhabitant was killed. Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, all used the practice. Today that is illegal. So you might stay in your house when the soldiers over-run it, and hope other illegal things like rape and murder don't happen to you. In many cases you might be able to keep living there later even if under a different flag-but not always. If you live in a wealthy home or a castle you pretty much kiss it goodbye. Usually hovels are ignored, but not by force of law.
Forgive me if this has come across as patronizing. That was not my intent. It is so easy to get caught up in the very real human drama, that these legal conventions and a broad historical perspective is lost. War is hell. It makes even the "righteous cause" guilty of evil. Not the least of which is the evil of legal tyranny. In contrast, had Israel lost any of those 3 wars, would we be here with the shoe be on the other foot? An honest answer would say no.
Jordan, Syria, and Egypt vowed to exterminate the Jews and finish what Hitler started. I guess I am an old guy, because I remember these very threats. (not 48). There would be no land concessions. None. And the "Palestinians"? Do you really think they would have a state? No, they would be part of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, and oblivious to their fate. These wars are more than about land. Land is a diversion. This has always been about exterminating Jews. And we tolerate it.
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Obviously books could be written about this.
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About bulldozers and my house. Canada is not at war. It has no concessions outstanding. If an American Bulldozer drove across the border into southern Ontario and started Bulldozing, there would be a problem. It would constitute an act of war, because it would be contrary to a treaty that defines that land as Canadian. On the other hand, if the government wants your house to build on, there actually is an expropriation act that allows them to do the same thing in the end--legally. The country and the province actually owns the land your house sits on. You are conveyed the right to be there by legal title given to you by the laws of the state. You have right of title because you are a citizen of that country. If the US invades us, we lose that title automatically. We could only hope that the US reinstates us and actually lets us own our properties instead.
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